Pastors, senators debate illegal immigration

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April 19th, 2011

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Lincoln, NE – The debate over illegal immigration continues in Lincoln.

Sen. Charlie Janssen defended his fight against illegal immigration at a forum in Lincoln. (Photo courtesy Nebraska Legislature)


Senator Charlie Janssen of Fremont continues to defend his proposal to have local law enforcement officials enforce federal immigration laws. The proposal is stuck in the Legislature’s Judiciary Committee, but it was a prominent topic in a forum sponsored by the Nebraska State Historical Society and the University of Nebraska Lincoln’s College of Journalism and Mass Communications this week.

Dave Lux, pastor of the Saint Paul United Methodist Church in Lincoln and a critic of Janssen’s proposal, invoked the Christian principle of treating your neighbor, including illegal immigrants, as you would want to be treated. Lux was asked how he would respond to those who say people ought to obey the law.

“People ought to obey the law,” he said, “but we’re talking about human law here, and obviously it’s not perfect. We have a lot of bad laws. And so we consider the laws from a moral perspective. In our church, in our faith, we value humans first… humans above the law.”

Janssen said dealing with illegal immigration is not simply a moral question.

I’m Catholic. If I were to commit a crime I could go and confess that sin and make amends with my church in that case but doesn’t make amends to society. Although I would be okay in the eyes of God, I would not be okay in the eyes of Lancaster County or the state of Nebraska or wherever I committed whatever type of crime.

Janssen said the Legislature won’t deal with his proposal this year, but he vowed to keep working on the issue.

5 Responses

  1. Brittanicus says:

    SPEAK UP!

    In a letter to U.S. Attorney General, Eric Holder, one of the Leftist Czar in the Justice Department, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX) has labeled Utah’s guest worker amnesty as “illegal” and expressed consternation at Attorney General Holder’s obvious refusal to enforce the law in Utah when he has been so quick to counter Arizona’s interior enforcement laws. This shows the Liberal influence pushing for some form–any form of amnesty, that the TEA PARTY will fight as the costs are astronomical, and it overruling the laws of of our country. This is a contradiction to Janet Napolitano stating that the Border fence is more secure than ever before.

    On Fox News and on C-Span TV broadcasts, has illustrated the mess our immigration laws are? Not because they are poorly organized, but because the laws are not enforced. If the TEA PARTY has any effect on this major problem, the will be no Comprehensive Immigration Reform (AMNESTY): killing Sanctuary State policies, the Dream Act Amnesty; Chain migration (Amnesty) or anything else that stinks of Amnesty for lawbreakers. That’s why we have millions of illegal aliens pouring into this country, because at some future time, they expect–MASS AMNESTY. It never worked in 1986, so it certainly will not work now? Not because of bad leadership at the borders, but owing to the fact that hundreds of miles in this dangerous territory, the US Border Patrol clashes with stupid, environmental laws imposed by the Bureau of Land Management , Game and Fisheries and Forest, Parks and Public lands.

    Rancher Jim Chilton put this lie to rest, by stating to a federal committee, that his 50 miles of border, of which he owns is wide open to the drug traffickers and illegal people smugglers. Jim Chilton added where there is a fence; it is no different to what you see rusting along any highway. In Chilton testimony he explained to the mix of party members, that the people live in fear along the border. If you leave your home it’s likely to get broken into. His own ranch had been burglarized twice and he cannot go outside, unless he is fully armed. So because of land managed laws, the US border Patrol must ask for permission to enter certain areas of land, because of such things as the endangered species Act. While at the same time the criminal surveillance persons have the most expensive binoculars and other equipment to watch the movement of the border patrol. The Border agents are essentially not patrolling along the border fence, where they are needed.

    Is there some ominous connection between the drug cartels and why the–REAL–fences, between our southern border and our National security? Does it seem strange to anybody else that after the 2006 Secure Fence Act was enacted, almost within a month funding for the bill was cut drastically and even today not even a single fencing has been completed? If the first steel enforced fence had been constructed, with a second fence, some thousand feet apart, maybe the drug traffickers would have not easy access to the children of America. With “drag roads” as they are called, ( parallel patrol tracks between the fences) between the 15 foot chain link fence, adorned with concertina razor wire, manned by permanent National Guard watchtowers within visible sight of each other. One Republican has sponsored a third fence scenario, which would be even a greater deterrent to the drug and illegal alien invasion.

    THE LEFTIST MEDIA WILL NOT DIVULGE THE TRUTH ABOUT THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION QUAGMIRE. NOR DID THEY PUBLICIZE THE RANTS, UGLY SLURS AND RACIAL EPITHETS SCREAMED AT THE LAST TEA PARTY RALLY. THEY ARE SHOOTING FOR MILLIONS OF MORE VOTES; EVEN IF THEY ARE ILLEGALLY VOTING IN ELECTIONS? THE CONFERENCE HELD BY OBAMA IS TO PUSH FOR ANOTHER IMMIGRATION REFORM TRAVESTY. NEW YORK MAYOR MICHAEL BLOOMBERG JOINED ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER WHO I SUSPECT ARE PART OF THE BUSINESS ORGANIZATION, WHO ARE THERE TO STOP ANY INTERRUPTION OF CHEAP LABOR ENTERING AMERICA.

    States that ignore immigration laws, such as Sanctuary California, Nevada, Colorado, Utah, will have endured floods of economic new Arrivals that politicians will force their taxpayers to financially support. Georgia and a few more concerned States will not bare the major money burden of fewer welfare aliens searching for another location to pilfer of public services.

    America is in a sorry way under numerous administrations, that have built massive governments agencies and many should be closed down. We are overextended in credit and we must bail ourselves out, by cutting costs to thousands of government agencies. With a rising 14 Trillion dollar deficit, that it’s not going away and all Americans must be prepared to draw in the financial belts. The Obama government must draw out the criminals that are stealing from Medicare and Medicaid. Huge criminal organizations are stealing from taxpayers, with dubious doctors and expensive tests. No matter the fiscal Consequences we must not go above the US debt system, by the leftist democrats using fear. Illegal immigration is not a small issue, as it now has grown out of all proportions and costing us billions every year.

    It’s no good expecting the Democrats or the Republicans to dig us out of this mess, as only the TEA PARTY is a growing party, splitting from the wealthy right. They have the empowerment to solve this out-of-control-problem. Visit a local TEA PARTY website no matter what religion, party affiliation, as long as you entered the United States legally. Find out what illegal immigration is costing you. Did you know that you, the taxpayer support the education for illegal alien children and free health care for the whole family? Do you know that they get priority over US Citizens for low income housing, if they have four children? All these answers and more can be located at NumbersUSA. Reading about Oregon giving drivers licenses to foreign nationals, is not only a security risk, but will mean illegal people will flow in by the thousands, with false resident ID, to take advantage of these State documents being issued.

    Remember if you buy American, you may be saving your job?

    The liberal agenda is awash and must be ended. No more environmentalists’s threats and start drilling for oil in Alaska, the Gulf and anywhere else? We are being held hostage by Saudi Arabia and fossil fuel countries, which our military fought and died for in the Gulf War. Nor should we exhaust our corn supplies for ethanol demand. America can build anything of a better quality, then anything from Communist China or cheap labor nations. Only one television unit is made in the United States today and importers of inferior products is making a fortune on America as unemployment grows. The vicious trade circle is enlarging all the time, when we buy a cheap computer or appliance and put more American in the welfare line. Seen ABC Channel seven of the house that was emptied of all foreign goods with only one glass vase left in the room. The Mega-corporations are outsourcing highly skilled US citizens and legal residents, while we receive indigent people who steal past our poorly guarded single fence; with hundreds of miles of our national border open to the incursions of foreigners undercutting low income American jobs. As for Nafta and Cafta that our representatives approved, they are unfair trade treaties and now they are going to allow Mexican 18 wheeler rigs on our highways throughout America. What is wrong with the people who run America; somewhere they must be on the take, as no patriot would arrange business practices that are hurting the American people?

  2. steve says:

    When did we lose our common sense? Our Government, has allowed the invasion of 30 million criminals in direct violation of Article IV, Section IV of our Constitution. they force American tax payers to pay Billions to provide Welfare, Prison cells, Educate the invaders children, free medical care,massive document fraud, & are destroying our schools, hospitals, communities, culture while Robbing, Raping, Killing & Assaulting American Citizens WAKE UP PEOPLE!

    Every Non-representative including obama and holder should be IMPEACHED! for not upholding the oath of office they swore to defend the Constitution! If these clowns were to do their job, this would all be a Moot point!
    Anchors and their criminal parents go, period, and cut the phony tears, you knew you were breaking the law when you crossed the border.

    Next shut down any business hiring illegal labor. Oh and owners go to jail.
    Got a better idea? Lets hear it!

  3. Maggie says:

    This is all part of the “One World Order.” We can fight it but we likely will not win. The left wants open borders, move around as you please. Well, guess where everyone will want to be? America. We are the nanny country. You don’t have to have an education to come to live here, have as many kids as you like, we’ll clothe them, feed them, take care of their health, just come here and vote for the Democrats.

    The only reason all these left and racist groups cite illegal immigation is at the federal level is not because they really believe that, it’s just that they know the federal government will never do anything about it. Enforce the law at the border? You’ll likely be thrown in jail. Does this sound like the America you knew?
    No. It isn’t. We’ve been taken for the biggest ride in history.

  4. Dave Gorak says:

    Religious leaders who support amnesty for illegal aliens have yet to show me where in the Bible it talks about turning our backs on the most vulnerable of our own citizens in order to “welcome the stranger.”

    I want Pastor David Lux to defend this country’s practice of permitting 8 million illegal aliens to keep their jobs and continuing each month to issue 125,000 work permits to foreign workers while 22 million of our own citizens are unable to find full-time work.

    Speaking of the Bible, doesn’t Matthew 22 address the issue of the need to obey man’s laws?

    Dave Gorak
    Executive director
    Midwest Coalition to Reduce Immigration
    http://www.midwestcoalitiontoreduceimmmigration.org

  5. YEH Ling-Ling says:

    This is a aessage to Church leaders and other Americans who promote amnesty for illegal aliens and/or ever-increasing immigration:

    I am an immigrant of Chinese descent who used to prepare amnesty and other immigration applications. Some Church leaders oppose measures to curb illegal immigration and vigorously promote amnesty and more immigration. They have brought up the commandment to ‘Love thy neighbor” and the importance of keeping families intact.

    American amnesty/immigration advocates must realize these hard facts: The United States now is the great debtor nation in the world with 43 million Americans living on food stamps. (Shouldn’t we care for those Americans first?) Conversely, within 30 years China went from symbolizing poverty to now holding the world’s largest foreign currency reserves and being our largest foreign creditor with 115 billionaires. Latin America also has many billionaires, including the world’s richest person Mexican citizen Carlos Slim Helu.

    Instead of promoting immigration, amnesty advocates should urge billionaires abroad to work with their own governments, to improve life for their own citizens, like China and Brazil have done. Illegal migrants and legal immigrants who miss their families should be reunited with their relatives in their home countries.

    For the sake of America’s poor, unemployed workers and youth of diverse backgrounds, President Obama and Congress should use China’s immigration policy as a model to reform ours. We should enforce our immigration laws as strictly as Israel and Mexico.

    Thank you.

    Yeh Ling-Ling
    Executive Director
    Alliance for a Sustainable USA

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